Number& type of comms per target audience

Hi ! I am completely stuck. I have columns:

Target audience (ie: managers, employees..)
Channel (email, meeting ..)

I managed to calculate the number of meetings, but I have no clue how to get to number of meetings per targeted audience. Is this even the right direction?

=COUNTIFS({channel},Meeting,{Target audience},Managers)

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Would this works?

=COUNTIFS({channel},"Meeting",{Target audience},"Managers")

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