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Reworked Empty Chart State to replace "Unable to display chart" in Dashboards

Kyle Chipman
Kyle Chipman Overachievers
edited 09/25/23 in Smartsheet Product Feedback & Ideas

I would like to see a rework of the "Unable to display chart" prompt in the Charts widget.

I am building a series of dashboards using Grouped and Summarized reports as the source data for charts, pulling basic counts across multiple sheets. These reports are counting open and overdue tasks, the goal being that they'll be empty more often than populated as team members close out task statuses.

Unfortunately, when reports that power graphs are empty, the graph widget defaults to a visually intense warning more akin to an error than an expected empty state (red-ish hue, warning ! symbol, "ask an Admin..." prompt). See screenshot below for reference.

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I understand that a workaround is to create a dummy row to populate the report with some kind of data, so it's showing 0 rather than a null value. I've gone that route in this circumstance, but the "Unable to chart data" experience has cropped up a number of other times building out dashboards, and I can't always anticipate or build out dummy rows to accommodate.

For anyone curious, going the dummy-row-for-a-0-count route looks like the example below:

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I'm not looking for a significant functionality shift (reworking the ways counts are handled). I'm requesting a less intense visual prompt when there's no data to display. Or, even better, a custom user-defined prompt, so that org-appropriate language can be used to describe what's happening.

I looked elsewhere in the community but could only find asked and answered questions, not a wishlist submission, though someone in those posts flagged this "Results are empty" visual in an existing template. This visual is in the spirit of the request - a neutral visual statement as opposed to misplaced Error-centric visual dominance. Not sure if I'm overlooking some simple method of implementing this visual in place of "Unable to display chart data".

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Thanks!

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Quick update - one more frustrating wrinkle to this dummy-row-for-a-0-count strategy I forgot about; the Blank counts will still appear alongside your other defined groups, leaving an ugly empty lane in the chart. This further emphasizes a need to rework this empty source data challenge with charts.

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We hear you! That error message is also off-putting to new users building dashboards from templates. Stay tuned - we expect to address this in the near future! We’ll update the status here to keep you informed.

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  • Kyle Chipman
    Kyle Chipman Overachievers

    It might be lame to reply to one's own post, but a brief update:

    The "Results are empty" screenshot above appears specifically for reports with no matching returns. Found it in another dashboard I'm building out, forgot it was specific to reports.

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  • Cathy Fraser
    Cathy Fraser ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited 09/03/23

    Hi Kyle,

    Did you come across a solution for the above besides the 0 data entry?

    Thanks

    Cathy

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  • Kyle Chipman
    Kyle Chipman Overachievers
    edited 09/04/23

    @Cathy Fraser unfortunately, you're going to need to prepare your reports (which is to say, a sheet that drives the report summary counts) to anticipate blank values.

    In the screenshot below, you'll see the sheet, report and resulting widget. I have all the columns and conditions prepped so that there will always be a "0" count for Blank values. You'll need to work out your own structure's requirements on your own.

    Out of curiosity, will you be at Engage? I'm pretty tapped right now, but if you're coming to the conference we could connect and review there.

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  • K.Candela.KCS
    K.Candela.KCS ✭✭✭

    When a chart is based on a report where there is no data to display, two reasons exist.

    1) the report could be showing exceptions such as "Errors by type" in a process. If there are no errors then the message that displays is misleading - I don't want a different range, I want a "There is no data to display for this chart" message, with the chart title "Errors by Type" retained so viewers know what the chart is intending to show. Or if I could customize the message that would be great.

    2) The source data could have an error - something changed in the sheet or filters, for example. If I look at a dashboard that I built for someone a month ago and there is this type of error, all I see is the below data and have lost the link to what the data source was, which causes a lot of searching and guesswork. The ideal state would be that the chart title remains, and that when I edit it, I see where it was initially pointed so I can troubleshoot quickly


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  • alexa.arboleda
    alexa.arboleda ✭✭

    This video might help- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUJJ3nALmao

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  • Kyle Chipman
    Kyle Chipman Overachievers
    edited 04/10/24

    Damn, had this response in drafts since last Fall. Apologies for the delayed send but cool that draft responses hang around for so long:

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    Thanks so much for the response, @K.Candela.KCS, and for the video, @alexa.arboleda. In total agreement with your points, Kristine, and with the solution in the video, Alexa.

    Just to be clear, it's not a workaround I'm looking to implement - I've got the workaround solved. I'm just pointing out a foundational deficiency in the way that chart widgets are configured. Would love to see a rework on the back-end to address it.

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    Additionally, agreed, @VinceA. This is at the core of my initial post. Bummer that only 7 other folks are in alignment at time of writing - alas! All you can do is put the energy out there :).

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  • VinceA
    VinceA ✭✭✭

    Yes Kyle .... agreed.

    Frustrating especially when others in management view dashboards and think perhaps something is wrong with some of the charts needing to be displayed. This should be a no-brainer to get situated because it tends to make a pretty dashboard not so pretty anymore.

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  • Swampcat14
    Swampcat14 ✭✭✭

    Adding a link to another thread I started on this issue, just to try to aggregate user feedback into one lane for the product team. -> https://community.smartsheet.com/discussion/109467/how-do-i-get-a-dashboard-chart-widget-to-display-no-data-when-the-source-report-returns-no-data#latest

    I've closed my thread in favor of this one.

    Steve Garrett

    Global Mobilisation Program Manager

    Yondr Group

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  • SahinOzgur
    SahinOzgur ✭✭

    some of charts are showing filtered data. when filter doesn't show anything on some days, chart seems like there is an error. Instead of this there would be better to have an information like "this chart doesn't contain data for now/yet" or "couldn't found the data to show" etc.

    now we see; "Unable to display chart! We're unable to read the source data. Please ask an Admin to select a different data range for this chart"

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  • Tim C
    Tim C ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited 10/11/24

    Take a look at this video from out parnter Rich at peodactive to fix those broken chart widgets . Should help!

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  • SahinOzgur
    SahinOzgur ✭✭
    edited 10/11/24
    https://community.smartsheet.com/discussion/comment/435999#Comment_435999

    thank you, this is not fixing, this explains how you can avoid to see error message. I post it for the solution from Smartsheet =)

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  • vin2020
    vin2020 ✭

    So, this idea is still in progress? That’s surprising; it should have been resolved quickly by the product/engineering team. Quite inefficient.

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  • Kyle Chipman
    Kyle Chipman Overachievers
    https://community.smartsheet.com/discussion/comment/447308#Comment_447308

    No - I do not think this particular idea ever gained visibility or traction by product, as no "in progress" marker was associated with the post. Bummer.

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  • Dani_torrone
    Dani_torrone ✭✭✭

    All chart widgets on a dashboard should be able to display the message 'No data to display' when there is no data to display. Currently, Smartsheet does not allow you to setup a chart using a sheet with no data (even if it has column headers) so you cannot proactively setup widgets. Also, when a chart is setup using a sheet which contains data, if the data is all zeros (for example I setup charts for my Team to review outstanding requests so some days there are requests pending sometimes their queues are already cleared) the 'Pie' & 'Donut' chart types do not display a 'No data to display' message, instead the widget displays 'Unable to display chart. The source sheet or report either can't be accessed or has been deleted. Please select a new source from the widget configuration panel.' which looks bad for me as the creator because to users it looks like I am not selecting a legitimate source sheet or users get confused and ask me why they do not have access to certain widgets when they do there is just no data to currently display. If you then change the chart type to any other option, it will show the 'No data to display' message like I would expect to see.

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    Also reports with no data used in chart widgets seem to have zero options that would allow the 'No data to display' message to show. When there is no data, the widget always displays the message 'Unable to display chart. The source sheet or report either can't be accessed or has been deleted. Please select a new source from the widget configuration panel.' which again causes confusion.

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